tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651724990228782828.post7773309419122164210..comments2024-03-28T17:03:47.687+05:30Comments on Rajan C Mathew's Blogs: Modern Time Wasting Quality Management Systems !Er. Rajan C Mathew FIEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07271941784093385135noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651724990228782828.post-35994042573937185142018-09-15T12:36:28.701+05:302018-09-15T12:36:28.701+05:30Spot on with this write-up, I truly believe this w...Spot on with this write-up, I truly believe this web site requirements considerably more consideration. I’ll probably be once more to learn far more, thank you for that info. <a href="https://amrepinspect.com/medical/" rel="nofollow">medical device quality engineering</a><br />James joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06988287027393855580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651724990228782828.post-89015046989717882752015-05-21T17:09:18.009+05:302015-05-21T17:09:18.009+05:30And another article on this topic here: https://ww...And another article on this topic here: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140609115551-50023863-don-t-get-iso-9001-certificate-if-it-is-an-expense-and-not-investment Er. Rajan C Mathew FIEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07271941784093385135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651724990228782828.post-25638962985401738892015-05-21T16:52:52.368+05:302015-05-21T16:52:52.368+05:30Today I happen to read some experiences that peop...Today I happen to read some experiences that people shared over the web about this topic. [Use this link: https://www.xing.com/communities/posts/my-experience-and-iso-1004282082 ] Some companies have begun to de-ISO because of the suffocation the QMS has invariably caused. Another experience is about the existence of two parallel systems coming into existence in companies that had adopted the ISO QMS certification. One for the purpose of certification and the other the culture by which work is actually done. Also shared here is the existence of companies where there is no formal certification in existence but quality is the unwritten culture. Very interesting!Er. Rajan C Mathew FIEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07271941784093385135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651724990228782828.post-24637054932546586422012-11-10T11:03:40.253+05:302012-11-10T11:03:40.253+05:30"It is common knowledge that companies in Ind..."It is common knowledge that companies in India, barring a few, try to get the ISO certification without actually knowing what it is all about. They are doing it because some others have done it and boast about it. So they too want it. That's all. They are least bothered how the company or its people are performing under this system !" <br />I love that quote - and I can assure your that this is not only the case in India! Gunnar Rundgrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11869055229248959119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651724990228782828.post-53142909001474642092012-11-10T10:21:40.091+05:302012-11-10T10:21:40.091+05:30Thank you Mr Gunnar Rundgren for this prompt respo...Thank you Mr Gunnar Rundgren for this prompt response and also writing a very detailed blog in support of what I have written.<br /><br />I suggest readers here to have a look at this blog using the link given above.<br /><br />Hope to read all that is written by you at your blogsite shortly.<br /><br />Regards.Er. Rajan C Mathew FIEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07271941784093385135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651724990228782828.post-46536275208644065072012-11-10T03:00:12.756+05:302012-11-10T03:00:12.756+05:30Hi, you might find this blog post relevant...
http...Hi, you might find this blog post relevant...<br />http://gardenearth.blogspot.se/2012/11/quality-management-is-management-fad.html<br />Gunnar Rundgrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11869055229248959119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651724990228782828.post-35771835858929999432012-11-09T23:27:42.411+05:302012-11-09T23:27:42.411+05:30Dear Mr David,
I naturally expected a reaction o...Dear Mr David, <br /><br />I naturally expected a reaction of this kind from those who are supporters of the ISO. <br /><br />You rightly said, there is nothing in ISO 9001 which would prevent the engineer of the story to act like that. But you also said it right about the possibility of someone writing a procedure that could do it. Then ISO has the mechanism to rectify such problems.<br /><br />But remember, what I have written is in the context of a country like India. Everyone knows about the rule of the law and the remedy they could get from the courts. <br /><br />But in practice how much of that is true ? We know the time, efforts and money that is required for that.<br /><br />Now if that is true, then it can happen with ISO 9001 too. That is more so when ISO is not legally binding on any one. It is done for the so called prestige.<br /><br />Imagine the situation when that is used by ignorant and unethical bosses just for the purpose of pure publicity and nothing else ! <br /><br />It is common knowledge that companies in India, barring a few, try to get the ISO certification without actually knowing what it is all about. They are doing it because some others have done it and boast about it. So they too want it. That's all. They are least bothered how the company or its people are performing under this system !<br /><br />I know scores of companies who are just doing this the way I have described. I can cite scores of examples where the employees are faced with hardships that their managements are not willing to listen or act. I know cases of all manipulations within the organisation including the mandatory internal audits and undue favours to the external auditors just to maintain the certification intact somehow.<br /><br />The more rules, the more we are destined to get ruined. That is the law for unethical people who are not guided by the spirit of goodness from within.<br /><br />Perhaps that could be the reason some one wrote this some time ago : Rules are for fools !<br /><br /> <br /><br />Er. Rajan C Mathew FIEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07271941784093385135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651724990228782828.post-55242722639734891112012-11-09T21:43:50.240+05:302012-11-09T21:43:50.240+05:30Rajan, I am not aware of anything in 9001 which wo...Rajan, I am not aware of anything in 9001 which would prevent the engineer you mention from helping his customer but someone writing a procedure that prevents it is not a reason to criticise the standard. 9001 talks about the need to meet customer requirements so the engineer in question would be justified in raising a non-conformance to have the relevant procedure changed to to allow him to do that. David Georgehttp://www.processauditing.weebly.comnoreply@blogger.com